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By Thomas Littleton:
There is a huge long term plan in place and being implemented. The goals short term are to get churches into the funding at any level – Federal/ State/ County/ City- which makes them “contractors” of social services. The local money is often coming down form the Federal agencies. In the Obama admins overhaul of the Faith based programs puts ALL organizations under the oversight of the agency whose individual FB program funded it – even if it passes through the state or local gov. That is in tern under the oversight of Homeland Security. Think of that. FEMA, for example, has made great inroads into the church and ministries like Samaritans Purse by funding disaster relief.
Obama overhauls – forbid “Any explicitly religious activity since the 2010 rule but did not enforce it until a “clarification ” in 2015, allowing many ministries to become dependent on it first and obtain the “Federal Contractor” status. Also in 2014 he issued an executive order about such contractors hiring policies include LGBTQ non discrimination policy.
Conservative Christian groups / churches and denominations are moving more toward caring for the poor but it is because of two things – really three – 1. political clout offered by the FB Program participation, access to the White House ect. 2. The money itself to prop up budget shortfalls. 3. The rise of Communitarianism, especially among young reformed believers.
There are always going to be issues with ecumenical efforts of conservatives and liberals together and almost always the push goes to interfaith – now more than ever. Hard as it may be- it is ALWAYS best to walk with those with whom you are spiritually agreed and avoid being yoked with unbelievers and the Government. The long term goal is control and to alter the mission of the church into having its resources exploited to better “society” not our eternal mission. Preaching an individual salvation is problematic to these goals – collectivism – it takes a village is the mantra.
Some time ago I came across this blog by a Nazarene member who laments that the church has gone into the Emergent church camp.
Tragically, it appears that Alice Bailey’s prediction has come to pass. It is a very difficult and lonely time for Christians who long for Christian fellowship but have few, if any, options in the church world, or should I say, worldly church. Especially Christians with young children are right to want to raise them in the church, but that may be the worst place for them to be today. Believe me, we are all in the same dilemma. I know God understands our plight and will help each of us individually to know what to do in this time of crisis. He will also provide us with true Christian fellowship if we seek Him in prayer.
JV, The Harbinger is basically a false prophecy that God has entered into judgment of the USA as He did Israel, because we have broken the covenant which the Founding Fathers, all Christians, made with God. This false premise and false prophecy is derived from a misinterpretation of Isaiah 10:9 discovered in the “mystical Hebrew writings” of the rabbinic sages. (pp. 240) Rabbi Cahn has denied that he is referring to the Zohar, the premier book of the Kabbalah, which is Jewish occultism, however, he does teach the Zohar to his Messianic Jewish congregation, Beth Israel Worship Center, aka the Jerusalem Center.
The Harbinger approaches the Bible like a mystery to be solved rather than God’s revelation to mankind. Instead of a literal interpretation of Scripture it is a fictional narrative which delves into a prophetic mystery with signs and omens and secret codes and hidden meanings of which the main character (Cahn) has been given understanding and is chosen to reveal to the church at this time. This is one of a myriad of books churned out by modern Judaizers to promote the heretical and blasphemous writings of unbelieving Jewish rabbis whose sole objective was and still is to undermine the Word of God, prevent belief in Jesus Christ and prepare mankind for a false messiah.
This book is so wrong on so many levels it’s hard to believe that so many Christians are deceived by it. I guess what resonates with Christians is the theme that judgment is coming to America. But Cahn assigns blame to the victims of an occult establishment that have seized power and legalized and promoted abominations which have corrupted its citizenry, especially the youth, in order to destroy their nation and assimilate it into a pagan new world order. Just another piece of political propaganda to divert attention from the criminal activities of the power elites to the bewildered masses who have little choice in elections or influence on the decisions made by government officials.
Example of Harlot Church:
“God help the SBC. This is the kinder, gentler, more politically correct SBC church that Russell Moore is building.”
Consider these statements by Theosophist Alice Bailey concerning the takeover, exploitation and merger of the Christian denominations into a Universal Church:
“Very definitely may the assurance be given here that, prior to the coming of the Christ, adjustments will be made so that at the head of all great organizations will be found either a Master, or an initiate who has taken the third initiation. At the head of certain of the great occult groups, of the Freemasons of the world, and of the various great divisions of the church, and resident in many of the great nations will be found initiates or Masters.” (Initiation: Human & Solar, 1922, pp. 61-62)
“Secondly, the church movement, like all else, is but a temporary expedient and serves but as a transient resting place for the evolving life. Eventually, there will appear the Church Universal, and its definite outlines will appear towards the close of this century. In this connection, forget not the wise prophecy of H.P.B. as touching events at the close of this century. This Church will be nurtured into activity by the Christ and His disciples when the outpouring of the Christ principle, the true second Coming, has been accomplished. No date for the advent do I set, but the time will not be long.
“The Christian church in its many branches can serve as a St. John the Baptist, as a voice crying in the wilderness, and as a nucleus through which world illumination may be accomplished… Its work is intended to be the holding of a broad platform. The church must show a wide tolerance, and teach no revolutionary doctrines or cling to any reactionary ideas. The church as a teaching factor should take the great basic doctrines and (shattering the old forms in which they are expressed and held) show their true and inner spiritual significance. The prime work of the church is to teach, and teach ceaselessly, preserving the outer appearance in order to reach the many who are accustomed to church usages. Teachers must be trained; Bible knowledge must be spread; the sacraments must be mystically interpreted, and the power of the church to heal must be demonstrated.
“The three main channels through which the preparation for the new age is going on might be regarded as the Church, the Masonic Fraternity and the educational field. All of them are as yet in relatively static condition, and all are as yet failing to meet the need and to respond to the inner pressure. But in all of these three movements, disciples of the Great Ones are to be found and they are steadily gathering momentum and will before long enter upon their designated task.” (“Religious Organizations in the New Age,” Externalisation of the Hierarchy, 1957)
I think that when governments overtly force churches to obey the LGBTQ non-discrimination requirement for the Faith-Based programs, many Christians will recognize and flee the Harlot Church. The problem now is that churches and denominations usually conceal from members their complicity with the requirement for LGBTQ inclusion.
“And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.” Rev. 18:4
Rosaria Butterfield’s primary field of study at Syracuse University was “the philosophical and political worldviews of Freud, Marx, and Darwin,…Critical Theory, Queer Theory.” In other words “Cultural Marxism.” Rosaria uses her Critical Theory skills to critique conservative Bible-believing Christians and the Evangelical Church in general and to promote Gay Christianity. A detailed expose of Rosaria’s Cultural Marxist books and agenda is available in this 12 part series:
Thank you, Gwen.
Again, I apologize for my delay. To respond to your question, according to Scripture the Shroud of Turin cannot be the burial cloth of Jesus Christ. The shroud is a single piece of cloth with the imprint of a body with the head; Scripture, however, states that the head of Christ was bound by a separate piece of cloth.
“And the napkin, that was about his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but wrapped together in a place by itself.” John 20:9
I believe the Shroud of Turin will be used to validate the false Christ. This image has already been popularized as “The Prince of Peace” by New Age painter, Akiane Kramarik.
Hi Anita, sorry for my delay in responding but my Internet has been down. You are welcome to repost any of our reports. Our ministry is to inform Christians around the world so you would be helping us to fulfill the ministry God has given us. May God bless you and the Saints in Australasia.
A little more history which you may already know. Back in 2008, the liberal Christian Post reported a $1.2 million grant given to the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force Foundation’s “Institute for Welcoming Resources” and its partner LGBT orgs to promote the affirmation and inclusion of homosexuals in Christian churches that were not yet on board with the radical gay agenda.
Grant Aims to Expand Pro-Gay Churches
Aug 28, 2008
A $1.2 million grant has been awarded to expand the efforts of gay and lesbian groups in increasing the number of churches that fully welcome and affirm homosexuals.
The grant from the Evelyn and Walter Haas, Jr. Fund was given to the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force Foundation’s Institute for Welcoming Resources and five partner organizations for a joint collaboration on strengthening the capacity and voice of Christian organizations that support gays and lesbians…
Currently, more than 3,100 congregations throughout the country have explicitly welcomed lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) people to full inclusion, according to the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, which merged with the Institute for Welcoming Resources in 2006 in efforts to “increase the number of people of faith supporting equality for LGBT people.”
“The more than 2.5 million individuals in the 3,100 congregations supported by the Institute for Welcoming Resources and these partner organizations are some of our movement’s most valuable advocates in promoting understanding, reclaiming what unfortunately has become a narrow view of ‘moral values’ espoused by those who seek to divide, and advancing LGBT equality,” Rea Carey, executive director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, said in a statement this week.
More and more churches are moving away from judgmental attitudes toward homosexuality and making efforts to respond to gays and lesbians with compassion and redemptive love. But they are doing it while still affirming homosexuality as sin.
Many churches are still ill-equipped in terms of ministry to homosexuals, but progress is being made, including within the Southern Baptist Convention, the largest Protestant denomination in the country. After establishing a task force in 2001 that would inform, educate and encourage Southern Baptists to be proactive and redemptive in reaching out to homosexuals, the denomination shifted their homosexual outreach into higher gear this past June.
“Our biblically-based opposition to the normalization of homosexuality and the affirmation of homosexual behavior should not hinder us from ministering to homosexuals and offering them the love and healing environment they need to leave this destructive and unbiblical lifestyle,” said Richard Land, president of the Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission, earlier.
The Institute for Welcoming Resources currently works with the “welcoming church movement” in 30 Christian denominations including The Episcopal Church, the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, the Presbyterian Church (USA), the United Methodist Church, and the United Church of Christ.
As of the publication of this article, the SBC had “shifted their homosexual outreach into higher gear…offering them the love and healing environment they need to leave this destructive and unbiblical lifestyle,” according to Richard Land, past president of the ERLC. But under the leadership of the current ERLC president, the SBC’s “love and healing environment they need to leave this destructive and unbiblical lifestyle” has morphed into a “secret ongoing dialogue” with HRC and LGBTQ organizations who are demanding the denomination “end the traditional rhetoric that homosexuality is a sin and that we would go to hell if we engage in it.”